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Sep 26, 2001 8:54PM
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Just surfing by nice to read all about you all Dale LOVELY
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Big sale on stocks this week!! Do your part and invest! It was important to give blood last week; it's important to support the economy this week!
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well said gentlemen...brian-i don't think you've ever been so verbose on the message board...sad topic but very true sentiments...the future now looks rather terrifying for me...i still feel rather unfocused at work...my thoughts keep going back to new york...worked on some stained glass projects today to keep my thoughts occupied elsewhere but it apparently didn't work well...i'm sporting a couple barbie band-aids from glass cuts...drifting thoughts and not enough attention to the jagged edges...rather fitting metaphor for life right about now...
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Well said, Brian! People need to understand why we're getting into this war. It goes so much deeper than "they don't like free democracy" and "they hate our economic success" and comments like that. Sadly, it's hard to find anyone who really understands the whole basis for their hatred, how it relates to our Israeli support and our actions in Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War. I watched a show the other day where Peter Jennings talked with a bunch of young school kids about this topic. Although some of their comments were a little off-the-wall (the kids were about ten years old), some of their responses explained the cause of all of this better than some of the adults I've heard, who are basically just mad and don't really understand it.
Of course the biggest problem with all of this is the fact that this is going to be probably the most difficult war we've ever fought. No real "target". An enemy without geographic borders. Extremely difficult fighting in Afghanistan. Future generations of terrorists who are growing up now that will only see this as a confirmation of American aggression. But of course there is no choice.
Killing Osama bin Laden, if we could even do that, will not solve the problem at all. It goes WAY beyond that.
And during this war, we will need to be watchful for the next unexpected terrorist attack. It won't be another hijacking - we would expect that. They will attempt to totally blind-side us. Maybe a biologic bomb in a crowded city or some other horrendous attack.
And in case you're confused, my comments in an earlier post mentioning how people around the world tend to dislike Americans has nothing to do with why these terrorists totally hate us and have waged war on us. That was just an observation that many people really do think Americans are stuck-up arrrogant bullies - a whole different subject.
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hey wolfe-man! i echo your thoughts entirely! we are all americans despite race, religion, nation origin, etc. i too am concerned about the growing "anti-anyone who looks like their muslim or from the middle-east" sentiment growing here in our homeland. it's just plain wrong!
that being said......this anti-American crusade (war) that the Muslim extremist community is fueling has nothing to do with America in and of itself. our support of Israel over the years is at the center of all of this.....whether we like it or not. it has nothing to do with how loud we are, how we look, how much money we make, what we eat, or the material objects we acquire. this whole thing could be over today simply by ceasing our involvment/support of Israel.
however, that WILL NOT and more importantly SHOULD NOT. happen......under any circumstances! and we all know why.
many have said that by waging war on terrorism.....many innocent lives will be lost. yeah, well......``WAR IS HELL!''
it would be one thing if we were going after a sovreign nation......but it isn't like that. terrorists are all around us......and yes......right here in the united states as last week's horrific events have shown.
korea, vietnam, the hostages in iran, the persian gulf.....these are all terrorist-based conflicts that the civilized world never finished. well, it's time to finish it......once and for all! if we don't.....there will be no world left for our children.
to HELL with hurting this country's feelings....or offending that country's policies.......the overwhelming majority of humanity on this planet is sick and tired of radical extremists causing harm/death/destruction to innocent people. we WILL wage WAR on the bastards that did this gruesome deed.......we will find them and there will be HELL TO PAY!
all Americans need to get rid of this anti-government thinking and remember who we are and what this country stands for. teach your children about GOD & COUNTRY, help your neighbor.......your fellow countrymen, pray to your GOD, display your FLAG and STAND WITH AND BY YOUR COUNTRY PROUDLY!
WE ALL SHOULD BE STANDING ON JOHN'S ``SOAP BOX'', AND STAY UP THERE!
remember.......UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!
GOD BLESS AMERICA.....
GOD BLESS HUMANITY!
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Good for you Torry!! Yes I did wear my Cub Scout uniform alot, but it was my Mom that insisted. I remember as I got older I didn't want to but she laid a guilt trip on me and I wore it afterall. I have a lot ot great memories as a cub scout. My Dad was involved as a scout leader and it was a great bonding experience for both of us.
Hey Torry, about those pictures, I especially like the one of our class with Mr. Fitz. My daughter Jennifer went to her eighth grade prom this Spring and I showed her that picture so she could see the babe I went to my 8th grade prom with. We both had quite a laugh!!
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Great pictures Jon! Did you wear your cub scout uniform on every "Picture Day"??? Didn't you love Cub Scouts? I think Mike is having more fun than Keenan being in Cub Scouts - they even attended Cub Camp this summer for a whole week! The boys and I just came inside from having a little candle light vigil at the end of our driveway. I don't think anyone saw us but we can say we were part of the "bigger" effort!
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Not sure about the soapbox comments but I believe one thing is for sure....the things that we all believe and love about being American can and will be used against us.
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I'll join you on the soapbox, Jon. Islamic Fundamentalists are a totally different breed from the everyday Muslim or Arab that might be your neighbor or friend. And Americans are Americans, no matter where they came from. I don't even like to hear terms like "African-American" or "Arab-American" because all that does is put those people into an apparent subcategory of Americans, which I think is unfair.
And for those who didn't realize it before - yes, there are many people in the world who dislike and even hate Americans. At one level, it's easy to see why people might dislike us (although not hate us). When you travel around a little outside the US you start to see that Americans really do match the stereotype - loud, obnoxious, rude, overweight, arrogant. It's so easy to pick out Americans by how they look and act, and it's not impressive. People who don't travel much probably don't realize how different we are. Again, that's not what leads to the hatred that these terrorists have (although the arrogance doesn't help).
By the way, these new security procedures seem like a joke. It always amazed me how easy it appeared to be to get something onto a plane. Now they won't allow curb-side check-in, they won't allow knives on board, and they will only use plastic silverware in the airport restaurants? That's not even close to what they need to do. For those who have travelled to Israel, for example, it's clear what real security is. It's more of a character assessment than a physical inventory. Thorough interrogations about who you are and what you're up to are needed. Much more than the "have your bags been in your possession" questions.
People are also going to have to get over their government paranoia. We can't have security in general without allowing the government a little leaway with regard to our personal lives.
Back down from the soapbax now...
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Hey all, Just sitting around twittling my thumbs till the FAA lets me go fly again. At the present only the Airlines and Charter coompanies are allowed in the air. Since I fly a Corporate Jet we're considered a private aircraft and we're still grounded. I don't particularly see the difference between our operation and that of a charter company, I've worked for both. Anyway, I'm glad to hear Ted's OK.
I was talking with my mechanic today and mentioned to him that everyone will either know someone directly or a close friend who is affected from the past events. 5 minutes later a fellow co-worker I fly with found out one of the pilots on American Airlines Flt 77 that crashed into the Pentagon was a past colleague he used to work with. All of our lives will be touched in one way or another. I sympathize and can relate that it certainly has been difficult watching TV with my kids the last few days. End of the age of innocence.
I'm also becoming disturbed with the hatred and anti-Muslum sentiment that is growing. Here in NH and in the Boston area hatred is eveident with reports that muslim students are urged to remain on campus due to a rising fear for their safety and Muslim owned stores in Boston have been vandalized. I hope everyone remembers that the individuals that carried out these heinous acts do not represent in anyway the majority of Muslims. The Muslim friends that I know are just as appalled and sick by the acts conducted in the name of their religion. Contrary to popular belief, Islam does not condone the savage killing of innocent lives. Let's not get wrapped up in our anger and blindly persecute honest loving people that are as much as American as we are. (I'm stepping down off my soapbox now.)
On another note, my Mom gave me some old class pictures. I'll scan them and post them. I have 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th grade at Zippel. I'll need some help with all the names.
Andy, great job on the site!! It's obvious you don't have a real job. (heh heh heh) Hope everyone is well. God bless America!!
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I dont think any word can really sermise what we are all feeling in the last few days. please check out this link to a wonderful "new" web site..it says it all...thanks
http://angelfire.com/nj4/justice4all/OpenLetterToTerrorist.html
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Hello from the other coast,
Hope all are safe. I had to explain to my six year old why our world has changed yesterday. It isn't easy to explain what happened for many reasons, but one thing for sure is its a very sad
and terrible thing. God bless all.
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Tragedy just doesn't seem to sufficiently describe what we are watching. I've been listening to many of my students who recently registered with selective service and some who must soon express their concerns about their futures. We have tried to respond as a school community so, maybe, we can comfort our children. It's frustrating. A food drive, blood drive, or cash collection just aren't enough. Most of our kids are shocked to find that anyone might actually not like the U.S. Many have never been asked to express their patriotism before. What are schools in your community doing?
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I just posted some Zippel School Class Pic's but I missed a few of the names. If anyone knows the unknowns please let me know. Sorry the resolution isn't very good. I don't know if it's my scanner or the fact the pic's can be only 50KB. I love your KISS photo's Greg!!
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glad to know you're ok ted...my thoughts were with you and your family yesterday...as i was sitting through a rather boring 2 hour staff meeting this morning, totally and completely unfocused, i thought: in the whole scheme of things-i don't care about all this work related, petty argumentative employee stuff...i looked for a blood drive locally--nothing...would have to go to portland and couldn't do it today...it's so disheartening to feel so utterly helpless....and then to have to try to explain to my children why there are people who would commit such horrific acts of violence...i can't bear to watch the tv anymore but i can't seem to turn it off...certainly puts things in perspective...
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Sorry, Andy, but you’ll probably never get a short hello from me. Except for the still smoldering fires at the Pentagon, everything appears more or less calm here in D.C. (My downtown office is open today but few people are here. I assume primarily because so many area schools are closed for the day.) As the events unfolded yesterday, there was a steady buzz of fear and anticipation and rumor for several hours after the third plane crashed and brought the national tragedy much closer to home for those of us working in the Nation's Capital. As many of you may have been, I was watching tv coverage of the 2nd attack on the WTC and aftermath when reports of the attack on the Pentagon came across the screen. We immediately turned around and saw from the 9th floor window behind us the plume of smoke billowing up from across the Potomac. Within minutes rumors about other explosions in the area (State Department, Old Executive Office Building, USA Today building) began flying. I headed up to the rooftop patio (13th floor=DC skyscraper) and watched with others for a few minutes as another airborne vehicle appeared to slowly descend toward the Pentagon. We lost sight of it behind the Washington Monument and a short while later a couple of huge thuds sent many of us back inside. [Still don't know what that vehicle (probably a military helicopter) or what those sounds were (sounded like artillery shells landing) or if the two were related.] Spent the better part of several nervous hours in the basement level of my building alternating between playing with my son in the daycare center and watching the news in our fitness center as fresh rumors circulated about "a 2nd plane heading for Washington" and a plane "10 minutes away from DC" and "fighter jets scrambling to attack the approaching plane" etc. Have to say that I contemplate how Israelis must have felt during the Gulf War as the SCUD missiles were en route. Since my building is a block from FBI headquarters, three blocks from the Justice Department and four blocks from the White House, we were understandably concerned about being so near such prime targets. Can't even begin to imagine how horrible it must have been in Lower Manhattan yesterday, but like you all I was riveted to the television and grieving for so many of our countrymen who lost their lives and family members yesterday. Don't know yet of any personal connection to the WTC tragedy, but I would be surprised if a few college classmates were not in the building. What a horrific day!
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Now that I look, I see that Ted is near DC, but I don't think he has anything to do with the Pentagon, so I'm sure he's fine.
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I had been planning to write some witty response about how the Yankees are so much better than the Red Sox. Of course Greg's pictures are great, and that deserved some mention too. All of a sudden it all seemed trivial in the big scheme of things. Of course all the TV coverage is almost overwhelming by itself. And then the impact of it all on our lives and the lives of others. I wonder if any of our classmates were close to the attack or anyone in it. Doesn't Ted live/work nearby? Maybe he'll check in with an "All Okay." I had a phone call today with my brother in-law who watched the entire thing out his office window and then shut the place down and went home. And then a call about his best friend (and a friend of mine) who works right across the street from the Trade Center and was on the street looking up at the plane crashing into the tower and then both towers collapsing while he's running around trying to get away from it. He was lucky, of course, and made it home safely. Add to that the fact that I did some consulting to Lockheed after the USS Cole attack to help the military try to prevent further terrorist attacks. This makes it all the more real.
It's a very sad day. I gave my kids an extra hug tonight - I trust you all did the same.
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What a day. I never thought I'd see this.Here in Pa where we are, they closed our school at noon. We are very close to TMI (three mile island) security is everywhere. It is so quiet here. I expect to hear the planes from Indian Town Gap flying to Washington tonight. I've prayed all day for our friends and family in the service and who live in D.C. and NY and for us who have children who will be or are 18. I feel I'm living my grandmothers fears of war and having her son be drafted. May God who has everything planned be our strength.
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First of all, Andy, great job on this new website. Thanks T and Jon Wolfe for all the wonderful photos! It was so good seeing all of you at the reunion. Wish I had more time to spend visiting. Anyway, thank you greg for your photos!! Too funny!I'm sorry but Blaine Buck looks like Dana Carvey doing "garth", paul thompson's hair reminds me of the flying nun and what size sneakers was derrick collins wearing...sorry Dianne, I know you have to live with him!!! Thanks again Greg for the laughs....you still Rock!!
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andy, this is were responsible parenting comes into play. had it been a ``red sox'' hat, there would not have been a problem!
i like your son's name.....very distinguished.
by the way.......really appreciate all of the hard work on this website.....hope more prople take advantage of it.
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Last year Brian (in first grade) wore his Yankees hat all the time until one day he suddenly didn't want to wear it anymore. It turns out the bus driver, who was a Mets fan, told him "you can't wear that hat on this bus!" He was being sarcastic, but it was lost on Brian and it pretty much traumatized him. He was afraid to wear a hat on the bus for the rest of the year! New year, new bus driver - the Yankees hat is back on!
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Karson started Kindergarten last Tuesday! I sent him with a t-shirt that said "Watch Out Kindergarten Here Comes Karson!" I'm sure the teacher was impressed! Keenan (10) got a new retainer today that makes him keep his mouth closed at all times - maybe he won't get in as much trouble this year! School truely is a blessing!
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First day of school here today! I imagine you Mainers already started by now. Boy, what a great day it is - especially for the stay-at-home types like me. I should be able to get into all kinds of trouble by myself all day long. Summer is just long enough that the kids start driving you crazy, but just short enough that you don't do any serious harm to them before you start loading them back on the bus for the teachers to take care of. I can't imagine home schooling! I need a little space!
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hey...i didn't necessarily say i learned or remembered anything in ancient history, just that she brought back memories!!!! yup, the ole bobby socks and saddle shoes wasn't it??
have a great weekend with the girls! i envy you that freedom!!
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ANCIENT HISTORY! Did we actually learn anything that year? I remember (vaguely) the quizzes she used to give??? I can't remember anything except her "bobby" socks and her snowshoes in the winter! I'm headed to Portland for the weekend (shopping). I'm meeting up with my college girl friends to spend Satuday night together (no husbands and no kids)!
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read the news board and saw the posting about ms. dingwall dying...just her name invokes such memories of class.. it amazes me still how one little woman could command a class like she did...my nephew is starting his freshman year at pihs...that started the memories too...i still remember my first day and how nervous i was...i remember it was hot...i had miss barter for english--remember rose? how time skyrockets by when we're not paying attention...i believe it was john lennon who said.."life is what happens when you're busy making plans..." ain't that the truth!
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You can now order the group photo from the reunion. Torry has promised to find the best reunion picture from those that were taken (pretty much like the one on the home page) and get copies made for anyone who wants one. You can either get a 5x7 or an 8x10. Just go to the photo album and click on the "Order" button to tell her you want one. I'm not sure of the price (it shouldn't be much) - Torry can probably give us an estimate.
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This site is so much nicer than the old one. I was up in PI this past weekend visiting relatives who live in Mapleton,next to Terri Estey sorry i missed you Terri i was going to walk down to your house but it was so late when everything ended and we left at 9 Sunday morning. Tammy Wheeler didn't realize we were friends in HS.
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Wow Torry! You are becoming a digital photo wizard! Nice job with the pictures - that must have taken some time. And I see you've put some appropriate pictures in for people's family photos (with nice cropping and everything). That's great!
And Allison - thanks for finally sending that heat back down to Florida. It was getting a little extreme. Looks like it will be much nicer this week.
And if you can't remember who someone is when you're reading one of these messages, just click on their name (try it). Now I just have to scan in more yearbook photos...
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Thanks for all the pics. Jon, but definitly could of done without the last one..ugh! I look like a sweaty 500 lb. Heffer....didn't we have beef for dinner???? I'm the other white meat...LMAO!!!
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Thanks for the pictures guys! Andy - I was also going to put that 8th grade picture one but hadn't had time to scan it! I have more group class photos from Mapleton Elementary (Higgins) and Skyway!
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Great job on the site Andy!
Well I am working again after my brief vacation/retirement. I am drilling wells in Bucksport and can honestly say the Air Force made me a bit soft. But that is why it's called work. Thank you to everyone who worked on the reunion, it was a great time.
Nice pics Torry. The guy next to Mike Buck was me.
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Howdy Folks, I've just looked at the 107 posted pictures and read the last 50 or so messages with awe as well as some mixed emotions. I am awed by the fact that so many of you made it to this event and that some of you were saddened by my not attending. Thanks for your concerns especially Roseann & Rosemary. Roseann your a sweetheart! Rosemary your a sweetheart as well and maybe someday you could explain to me what AT???? means??? In any case hello Leigh Cote. My family and I visited the San Pasqual battle museum yesterday which I believe was the location of last major battle fought in the Spanish American War. Little did they know then that Mexico would win the war over land during the next century! My wife and I are hoping Tim will learn spanish soon so we can communicate with many of the locals. Our move to California has been exhausting which makes me realize I'm gettin older. Having said that, I saw a lot of gray at the reunion and I too noticed a lot of blonds as well! Dee Dee and Gerry filled me in on some of the details and I hope all found something of what they were seeking at this reunion. How's it going Ted?
Take Care all and drop me a note if you find the time. As a side note I was telling some of the guys I'm working with that my favorite expression in Japanese when I visited there was Gohan O tabamasuka which means "do you eat rice?" I used to ask it in all seriousness with a John Wayne accent and it blew they're minds.
T. Wilson
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hey great sight. hope everyone had a good time at the reunion. i was thinking of all of you. carma you need to e-mail me. i want details. i wish i could have been there.
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Nice job on the new site Andy. And I do agree about everyone looking great at the reunion. However, I dont recall there being so many "blondes" in our class LOL. To me, it was like the 10th reunion I never went to, everyone has aged so gracefully.
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By the way, Allison, you were right - you ladies have aged extremely well! Of course I don't want to be seen as a disgusting pig, but all the girls looked great at the reunion! (maybe the guys did too, but I'm not going to go there) Anyway, I was quite impressed!
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site looks great andy! thanks for all the time your dedicating to us all!
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ok, as I look through the pictures of the 20th reunion I see my mothers friends like Mrs. Footer, Mrs.Mcconell,Mrs. Carmichael, I can't believe it. Great photos. Looks like everyone had a good time. Thanks for all your hard work everyone.
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Everyone - please give me news stories for the news page. Go ahead and post some of your photos in the photo album. I'll be making small changes to the site as we go, so bear with me. I'll add some help in the photo album section for those of you having trouble.
As a side note, you need JavaScript to run this new site properly. If you have any trouble bringing up any of the windows, it may be due to that. Just send me an email if you have any problems at all.
And if you have photos but you don't want to put them on yourself, just email or mail them to me and I'll do it for you. I appreciate any feedback, by the way, so if you want something added, just say so!
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Everything looks great! Thanks for all of your work ANDY!
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Welcome to the new message board! Once we get away from the old Homestead site, this will be the message board we'll use. I made the time display Eastern time, since most of us live in that time zone.
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